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"None!"
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"nothing, keep up the good work!"
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"Nothing - did a great job, and they take care of veterans very well."
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"Nothing-- very friendly!"
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"They were awesome."
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"Rank the waiting list more quickly. Waiting until May 15 was torture."
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"None. They were ok, nothing special but seemed to do their jobs."
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"Nothing. They did a fantastic job of presenting the school and making us as interview candidates feel like they were just as privileged to have us there as we felt to be there. Really kind, genuine people."
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"Everything was awesome! Excellent lunch, got the interviews overwith quickly, tour of the area helped, and we talked with current students candidly."
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"Loved this school."
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"Lunch should be at 12 not 12:30. Do the lunch first, then do the tour. We were starving after interv"
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"Very approachable people. Megan and Bea are always willing to help or answer questions. They are ver"
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"they pretty much got the admissions process down. no complaints."
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"Friendly but quite obviously fake"
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"Nothing much...more recycling bins (I'm a hippie)"
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"Keep it up!"
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"Nothing. Meghan, Julie, and Bea are all fantastic!"
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"I would recommend that you select a student for the tour that has spent significant time there. Mine"
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"Nothing, really, b/c they did a great job"
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"The admissions staff is quite obviously fake and do not do a very good job of hiding it."
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"Please don't waste other people's time. If you give advice to an applicant, please make sure it is"
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"Some applicants are driven to be osteopathic doctors, others are just doing it, get a grip and learn"
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"shorten the day. It does not need to be that long."
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"Don't base your judgment of applicants based on how much they kiss your rear...base it on their cred"
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"none"
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"The admissions staff is very quick in responding to requests for more information but I found the re"
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"Admissions office is top notch. Best that I have dealt with thus far in my medical school interview"
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"How do you think physicians are leaders in the community? Should they be leaders in a community?"
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"Strengths/Weaknesses"
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"Where do you see yourself 15 years from now"
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"What makes the process of applying to schools and becoming a doctor worth it for you?"
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"Why osteopathic medicine? Why VCOM? Why medicine?"
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"If you could ask the President to enact one thing and him not be able to go back on it the next day, what would it be?"
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"As an out of state applicant, why VCOM?"
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"Out of all the schools you applied to, how much of a priority does VCOM have?"
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"How have your previous experiences prepared you for medical school?"
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"Why VCOM"
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"What interests you about VCOM?"
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"Why D.O."
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"The 2 faulty interviewers asked the typical why osteopathic, why do you want to be a doctor, why VCOM questions"
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"What is primary care medicine?"
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"What is one important trait that didn't come through in your application?"
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"Very conversational. I was interviewed by a PhD and he asked me about research that I had done as an undergraduate."
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"Do you see yourself practicing in this region one day?"
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"Even though I had taken every upper level bio class offered at my undergrad with mostly A or B grades, I was asked about the one C I did get."
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"Why osteopathic."
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"What do you do to relax?"
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"1st Interviewer: Why VCOM? Why DO? Favorite class? Lease favorite class? Proudest Moment? Biggest Failure? Most recent book read? Most unique thing about you?"
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"How would you handle all the stress associated with being a med student?"
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"What did I think of the area?"
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"Can you give an example of a time you worked as a team? Can you give me an example of a time you went against your ethics? Can you give me an example of a time you were proud?"
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"Why vcom, why DO"
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"Tell me what you know about OMM."
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"Where do you see yourself in residency? 10 years from now?"
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"There were a lot of questions-- the first interviewer asked me a lot about m interest in rural medicine, how my experiences affected my interests, and what I thought of the school and why. "
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"How much money do you expect to make?"
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"What are your weaknesses?"
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"The interviews were really conversational. I did most of the talking."
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"Tell me about yourself? What have you learned from travel experiences? What do you enjoy doing for fun?"
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"Tell me about your Undergrad Institution?"
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"If you are living your dream career, where will you be in 15 years?"
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"Why DO? Why VCOM? What are you most proud of?"
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"All three interviews were super low key and very conversational. The key is to be relaxed but still be professional. They really seem to want to get to know you - so let them! I also asked plenty of questions to each interviewer and interviewed them."
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"Tell me about yourself.
Name a time that you went above and beyond the call of duty.
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"Why DO? Where do think you will be practicing medicine in 10 years? What specialty? Asked specific questions about my community involvement. This interview was very conversational."
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"If you were responsible for a patient's death how would you go about handling it? "
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"Where do you see yourself in five years? Ten years?"
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"Since your father is an allopathic physician how do you think he feels about you applying to this school?"
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"First was just a conversation. "
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"Some schools will help you become a clinician, while others will make you a researcher. Which one do you want to be? (clinician) Why do you want to be a clinician?"
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"How will it affect you when/if you are sued by a patient?"
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"Over the next 30 years the figure to care for Baby Boomers is equivalent to the current 700 Billion stimulus package. What is the importance of both and how do you feel the importance should be distributed?"
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"Tell me about yourself.
Then he asked like 20 ethical questions - (Yeah, all the big ones you can possibly imagine - this guy was tough, but good.)"
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"Ethical question"
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"explain your answer to the essay you wrote (regarding how to fix healthcare, was told it was the best essay he had ever read, and he just wanted to make sure *I* had wrote it and could back up my answers!)"
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"How does my drive to be a D.O. fit with entering the Army."
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"Why DO? Why VCOM? Why medicine? How do you study best? Asked about my chemistry grades. Jam's and jellies question. Why are you interested in DO/PhD? "
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"Who would you nominate for Time magazine's person of the year?"
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"What do you think about OMM?"
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"why DO? why VCOM? why Medicine? "
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"If you had to amputate a patient's limb, what would you do?"
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"What area of medicine do you want to specialize in?"
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"Tell me about Ireland. (I worked abroad there)"
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"What was your greatest accomplishment in college?"
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"Why DO and not MD?"
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"What made you consider DO? Why VCOM?"
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"What 3 material things are important to you?
What determines a person's self worth?"
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"Why DO? What characteristics make a good doctor?"
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"What is your greatest success?"
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"First interviewer did not ask me any questions. His first comment was that ''My life is very interesting!''"
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"Why VCOM? Why DO? why rural medicine?"
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"Why do you want to be a physician?"
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"Why Dr.? Why DO? Why military? Why VA? "
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"Why medicine, EVMS"
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"Intelligence aside, what qualities do you think make an exceptional osteopathic physician?"
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"Why DO? Why VCOM?"
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"Where do you see yourself in 5 years?"
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"See difficult question above."
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"Why D.O.? Why VCOM?"
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"What are some qualities of an osteopathic physician?"
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"What is osteopathic medicine? Why D.O.?"
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"What was a major dissapointment in your life? What is the difference between MD and DO?"
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"Tell me about yourself?"
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"Tell me about your group interaction? How did you solve a problem when you disagreed? How do you see yourself in 10 years? What kind of practice will you have?"
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"How do you feel abour rural medicine?"
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"Why VCOM?"
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"Tell me about a time you solved a problem, not medically related per se."
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"Why D.O.?"
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"Why DO vs. MD? Favorite book? What qualities can you bring to the class? What is one weak area?"
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"How would you fix healthcare in America?"
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"Tell me about your missions trips"
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"Most questions were just about my background."
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"Where do you see yourself in ten years? What fields are you interested in?"
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"Name a dissappointment in your life. "
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"Of all of the science courses that you have completed, which was your favorite/least favorite and why?"
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"Why VCOM? Why DO? "
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"If you had Pres. Bush on the phone for 1 minute what would you suggest him to do about health care today?"
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"Explain how your experiences made you want to become a DO."
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"Why DO?
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"Why VCOM? Why osteopathy? Asked me about my DO experience."
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"Why are you here?"
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"What is osteopathy (actual first question I was asked there)"
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"How do you handle stress?"
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"What would you do if you caught someone cheating? Answer: Turn him or her in."
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"Why DO? What do you know about DO?"
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"first interviewer: why doctor? why DO? what was it like growing up in your hometown? she looked through my file and asked a couple more specific questions..no big deal."
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"Why rural medicine?"
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"why did you apply to vcom?"
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"What is the story behind your nickname?"
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"Tell me about your MCAT experience (I did really poorly on my MCAT the first time but significantly improved the second time around)"
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"Why do you want to become a doctor? When did it hit you? Why Osteopathy?-same question was asked twice by two different faculty members."
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"Tell me about yourself."
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"Why a osteopathic medicine?"
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"Why do you want to come back home?"
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"5-10 years from now?"
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"What type of patient should receive OMT treatment? The answer is all patients, but the way the question was asked required me to think more than needed."
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"What would you do if you won the lottery?"
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"What I thought about healthcare in the US and what I could do to fix it?"
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"As described in other posts."
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"If you made a mistake and a patient died as a result, would you tell the family? Would you quit practicing medicine? What is your biggest regret? What would your best friend say about you? (as far as I can tell, everyone was asked these questions.)"
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"what is it about osteopathic medicine that makes it a more effective discipine than allopathic medicine?"
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"Why DO, VCOM."
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"What do you think about stem cell research?"
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"What are you very proud about "
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"As a physician, how would I handle an uninsured patient who needed treatment? (I actually had an uncle who experienced this, so I gave what I thought was a good answer.) "
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"Just elaborate about yourself and your file."
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"why medicine, what do you do besides school"
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"What did you do in Australia?"
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"Why VCOM."
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"Tell me about yourself. Why osteopathic and why a physician? "
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"Where do you see yourself in 5 years/10 years?"
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"What happend with undergrad grades? What is the last book you read? Why DO? Why VCOM? Why VA? (Professor very dry)"
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"Interview 1: Tell me "your story." Where do you see yourself in ten years? Do you have any concerns about VCOM? If you are accepted here and several other schools, what would keep you from choosing VCOM?
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"Why Osteopathic Medicine, Why Virginia, Why VCOM? "
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"Where do you see yourself in 10 years."
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"Tell me about yourself. What experiences have you had with medicine?"
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"Why do I want to be a physician?"
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"What are your strengths/weaknesses?
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"Where do you see yourself in ten years?"
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"Which science class did you like the best, the least?"
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"Why VCOM? Why osteopathic medicine? Where do you see yourself in 10 years? ( asked in 2 of the interviews)"
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"Why DO? Why VCOM? Why rural? Do you see it as a negative to have no alumni to have out in the field?"
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"Where do you see yourself in 5 years? 10?"
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"Have you shadowed a DO?"
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"What is euthanasia? I didn't know an exact definition. He told me "doctor-assisted suicide." I politely said nothing, but I WISH I had thought about the case of girl babies in China killed because the parents wanted a boy, or the killing of a retarded child. Neither case would be "suicide." F*CK HIM right in the ear! We were told that this school wanted us to feel comfortable, and he made me feel like my answer was dumb. I'd love to punch that focker! (My other two interviewers were awesome, don't get the wrong impression)"
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"Tell me why you want to be a DO and not an MD. "
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"What are your strengths/weaknesses?"
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"Why D.O. and why VCOM?"
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"Why osteopathic med?"
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"What would you do if you saw a student cheating?"
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"Why rural"
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"What are your strengths and weaknesses?"
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"See above"
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"Describe your work and medical experiences?"
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"What do you know about stem cell research? What areas of medicine are you interested in? What do you think will be hardest about medical school?"
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"Why DO? Why VCOM?"
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"Why Osteopathic Medicine?"
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"How have your experiences in both rural and urban health care changed your perception of medicine?"
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"Tell me about yourself. Why osteopathic medicine? Why EVVCOM?"
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"What will you do with a non-compliant patient"
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"Where do you see yourself in 10 years?
What are you doing in Biochem right now?
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"Favorite Class? What would I have changed about my undergraduate education? How did I balance all my activities?"
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"Did you like growing up in MI? I'm from that state too."
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"Why DO?"
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"If you could only keep 3 material possesions, what would they be? "
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"Where do you see yourself in 10 years"
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"Were do I see myself in 10 years? ( all 3 interviewers ask this question)"
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"How do you feel about abortion?"
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"What was a disappointing moment in your life?"
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"Where do you see yourself in 10 years?"
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"where do you see yourself in 10 years, strenghts and weaknesses, why DO? "
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"What osteoptahic Physician"
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"I was asked several scenerios about abortion and cheating and how I would have handled it."
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"All three interviews asked Where do you see yourself in 10 years?"
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"Where do you see yourself in 10 years (asked in all 3 interviews)?"
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"Where do you see yourself in the future?"
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"What is the biggest dissappointment in your life?"
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"Where did you learn about osteopathic medicine?"
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"Where do you see yourself in 10 years? This was the only question repeated between interviews. "
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"A classmate asked you about an exam they hadn't taken yet. How would you handle that situation?"
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"How do you feel about County-level mask mandates? What can we do to increase vaccine uptake?"
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"How would you handle someone who is not compliant with wearing a mask during COVID"
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"If you were the Dean and a student got a DUI, what would you do?"
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"Who would you pick living or dead for Time Person of the Year?"
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"What is the most recent book your read?"
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"Was given a scenario and asked what I would do. Scenario was about a young child who had become pregnant and wanted to get an abortion. She can't tell her parents because they would abandon her. As a doctor who she came to, what would you do?"
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"Tell me about a time that you cared for someone else."
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"Ethical question - fellow student with a drug problem"
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"Why DO, not MD? Did you apply to MD schools as well? (I did not, committed to osteopathic medicine was the main point of my answer, which they respected even though they were an MD)"
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"How do you feel about Urban Meyer? ( went to undergrad where he currently coaches football and recently won the national championship)"
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"Describe a time your ethics were challenged."
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"the student interview questions were ALL interesting- If your house was burning down what material item would you save? Do you think VCOM should monitor students' facebooks or ban their students from facebook entirely? If you were a fruit what fruit would you be?"
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"N/A"
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"How do you handle stress?"
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"If you had a magic wand, what is one healthcare issue that you would do away with, and why?"
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"Why isn't your GPA higher. Odd since it is over a 3.4 science/overall."
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"Last book I read."
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"What made you switch from fashion design to science?"
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"I honestly don't remember any specific questions asked, everything was so conversational, I can't say I was ever really asked any pointed questions."
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"What three material things do you value?"
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"If, for some reason, the new health care reform was not passed, what aspect of the bill is most important to keep by itself?"
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"If you had $1.8B to spend on one thing to improve the health of people in Virginia, what would you spend it on?"
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"What do you think are the pros/cons of VCOM?"
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"if you were in charge of healthcare in the united states, and you had $1,000,000 to divide up, how would you do it?"
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"What is the dream? What do you wish to accomplish after your residency?"
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"None"
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"None were really interesting, we were just conversing. "
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"they were all pretty basic"
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"What was the worst job you've ever had?"
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"Why i took the MCAT three times?"
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"What have your travel experiences taught you?"
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"coming soon"
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"Which science class did you dislike during undergrad - not hard just not expecting it."
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"How many D.O. physicians are there in the country."
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"Questions about a patient in my personal statement"
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"They were pretty much what I expected except for the patient death question."
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"What is your favorite book? What is the last book you have read?"
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"What's your favorite book, who wrote it, and why did you like the author so much."
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"conversations were interesting"
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"We tell smokers that they will eventually have many health problems and they understand yet continue to smoke. Should we still offer these people healthcare? Should they be able to get something like a heart transplant?"
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"The ethical ones were all great."
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"How will it affect you when/if you are sued by a patient?"
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"I also telephone interviewed, what can you tell me about the experience (from my AACOMAS)?"
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"Would you accept a bushel of corn and a butchered pig as payment for a medical procedure?"
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"?What would you do . . .? Some ethical question I can't remember the specifics. I think it was on a 14 yr old wanting an abortion or someone refusing to get a limb amputated. The most interesting part of the interviews was speaking with the professors and learning about some of the research they were involved with."
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"Since you were a certified optician, recommend glasses for me that will work for me in a certain activity I participate in (profs hobby)? I haven't had any luck with anything else."
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"Nothing, the interviews went fine, they got into what my experience and knowledge I had from school, volunteer and shadowing."
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"med school is competitive. Why should I go to the admissions committee and tell them to let you in?"
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"If I had to amputate someone's limb, what steps would I take post amputation?"
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"What is the difference between physical therapy and OMM?"
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"if you were paid for services in jams and jellies would you accept that if that was all patients could offer?"
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"Who would you nominate for Time Magazine's person of the year?"
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"Who would you name as TIME magazine's person of the year 2007? (I was NOT prepared for this question and I could not think of anyone good so I made a joke out of it. I said ''Britney Spears for her incredible career suicide''. My interviewer laughed so hard and said he loved the answer!)"
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"If you could be president of your undergraduate university for one day, and you had all the funds and resources at your disposal, what changes would you make?"
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"While working as a hospital corpsman and laboratory technician, what events stand out or have made the most impact on me?"
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"If you were given unlimited funding to start a free clinic, and you could hire 7 practioners, from what specialties/areas would they be and why?"
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"What's the most interesting book you've ever read? and What's the most interesting place you've ever visited?"
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"How much do you feel you should earn after spending so much time getting your medical education?"
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"Where do you see yourself in 10 years"
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"Nothing out of the way or weird.
All questions were straight forward and related back to my application materials."
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"All the questions were very general, such as, what are your hobbies?, Why DO? Why VCOM? Where do you see yourself in 10 years?"
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"Why rural medicine? If I had three people to take to dinner (dead or alive) with all expenses paid who would I take?"
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"what was a major disappointment in your life and how did you overcome it?"
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"Nothing remarkable or unexpected. All questions were straightforward, fair and directed towards my application information."
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"Think ahead in 10-15 years and you're a general practioner. How many patients do you intend to see in a given day?"
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"What do you think about the United States (asked in relation to my international background)."
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"The impossible question.. Which would you rather be, the very best Diagnostic Doctor or the most compassionate Doctor? No matter which you choose the interviewer players devils advocate."
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"It was basically all conversational with me taking the lead sometimes."
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"If you had to pick 3 people to eat dinner with, with all expenses paid, who would you take?"
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"What are your three most important material possessions?"
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"What could you do as a physician for tobacco farm owners if people stopped smoking? (I had done a lot of undergraduate research on the cessation of tobacco use among adolescent females)"
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"Questions regarding my research"
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"Did I know my middle name was French?
What do I like to do for fun?
(Most questions were pretty standard just trying to get to know you as a person. There was no drilling, just conversational)"
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"If I could do it all over what would I do differently? (Academics)"
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"Name three material objects that are important to you?"
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"What do you think about becoming a radiologist? (this is a primary care focused school)"
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"Tell me about at time you helped someone, medically related or not."
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"What do I know about OMM"
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"None, really. There wasn't many questions because of the conversational type interview. I did, however, have a question about Hurricane Katrina."
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"What was the last book you read? The one before that? If you get Dr. Santo, dont just say "I read lots of books". "
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"Tell me a story you remember from your Mythology class"
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"If you could staff a free clinic with 8 people, what type of people would you hire? (i.e. types of doctors)"
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"Do you think that science (which goal is "to Know") has shortcomings/failures in refernce to spiritual and mental aspects affecting health."
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"Name something that was a dissappointment in your life."
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"Tell me about the day you received your MCAT scores. How did you feel?"
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"When I take your file to the committee what is the one thing you want me to remember or say about you?"
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"If you were a mechanic you would only expect to be payed if you fixed the problem but as a DR you may not "fix the patients problem" but you still expect to be payed. How do you explain this??"
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"nothing really... (see description)"
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"Of the three people I had in my interview, one of them continued to talk about what kind of physician he wanted me to be and never gave me more then two minutes to answer a single question: for example: I see that you are a C.N.A. I talked to my wife about this, she is a R.N. I respect you for this. You work with a lot of sick people, that is very good, I want all of the future physicians to do this....on and on, I felt like I was in a lecture. "
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"What are the qualities a physician should possess?"
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""tell me about yourself questions. Why DO? Why VCOM? Where do you see yourself in 10 years...rural setting? What characteristics should a good physician possess?"
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"See "most difficult question""
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"What do you think your greatest accomplishment has been?"
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"How many schools did you apply to? Did you apply to MD?"
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"Give me an example of a disappointment in your life."
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"What is the one thing you have do that makes you most proud?"
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"What's the most interesting place you've been?"
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"what would I do if a teenager requested BCP?"
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"How do you feel about herbals and homeopathy?"
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"What was your favorite/least favorite undergrad course and why"
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"What would you propose as a possible solution to the looming crisis in health care coverage?"
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"How would I explain to a family that I was responsible for the death of a loved one."
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"Where was my accent?? I'm from southwest virginia but have lived in CT for a while and lost it. Everyone the interviewer had met from my county had thick southern accents. "
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"When you decided on medical school, how did you decide/know, what led you to conclude medicine was your calling?"
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"What type of patient should receive OMT treatment? The answer is all patients, but the way the question was asked required me to think more than needed."
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"The most interesting questions were about items in my file that they had pulled out unexpectedly. It was interesting to see someone read the file that close."
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"Describe an event or situation where by you had to use complex analytical skills?"
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"None to orignial."
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"Here's your chance to convince me why you will succeed at this school. Let's hear it."
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"What is the biggest obstacle you've faced in your life?"
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"When i become a physician what would i do to help the middle class that didnt have insurance at the legal level."
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"If I saw a student cheating, what would I do? (I had to stop and think about this one. I thought I gave a pretty good answer)"
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"Do you know how kids get ADHD? (I did research dealing with ADHD students)"
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"tell me about yourself"
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"Every student reaches a point when they question this choice to becoming a doctor. How will you get over that wall?"
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"Nothing weird"
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"What does your family think about you applying to med school?"
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"What would you do if you made a medical error?"
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"What determines a person's self worth?"
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"Most questions were standard. "
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"Do you think that you will remain compassionate as a physician?
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"What do you see as the biggest problem in healthcare today, can you expand on your secondary statement?"
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"How do you anticipate resolving the insurance/healthcare problems present in America today? (from my file) "
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"Give an example of when osteopathic medicine is more effective than traditional medicine."
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"everything was from my file, nothing hard, don't stress this one!"
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"Since my interview, I have been accepted to this program. I will be attending this school this fall.
I am writing this in response to the post dated "4/10/2004 3:50:27 PM", and posted by the Engineering turn biochemistry major, who claims to have interviewed on 3-31-04"
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"How do I perceive healing?"
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"How would you feel practicing medicine in a rural setting?"
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"Absolutly nothing surprising. Just the typical interview questions. Why do you want to be a physician, why EVVCOM, etc...."
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"All standard questions."
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"The majority of the interview content involved conversational exchange of information directly related to my file. It was very low stress and I felt that the faculty was just trying to get to know me. "
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"Could you elaborate on your answer of providing healthcare for under- and uninsured people? "
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"If you have enough funds to save five people with cancer or use those funds to screen and maybe save more lives what would you do? What if the person with cancer would die within six months,would you use your all you funds on him?"
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"Ethical questions, about only having one pint of blood who would you give it to. A 70 year old man in a coma, a 7 year old girl with leukeima or a new mother. I thought it was obvious."
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"What nonscience class would you advise anyone to take?"
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"How do you want to combine your engineering degree with your medical degree?"
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"Role reversal- I was allowed to interview one of the interviewers for a little while."
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"Name three items that are important to you. Questions regarding my undergraduate research."
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"What undergraduate course would you recommend that every student take and why?"
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"How do you think your business degree will help you in medical school?"
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"nothing out of the ordinary"
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"Where do you see yourself in 10 years?"
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"What I knew about exercise and its impact on the immune system (because of my research experience). He wanted specifics which I couldn't give him, but was nice and tried to explain to me that he didn't know an exact answer either."
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"I was asked by one of the interviewers to give him a quick shoulder massage because he wanted to feel my skills. I have been a therapist for seven years and you can tell a lot from depth of touch. He told me I would be everyone's best friend for palpation skills."
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"What has been your biggest disappointment?"
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"If a woman's mother had cancer and told you not to tell her mother what would you do."
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"What ever happened to your mother? (I talked about her in my essay question)"
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"Nothing...typical questions"
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"For the most part, the standard/traditional questions were asked and then the interviews turned into more of a conversation."
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"Name a non-science class from undergrad that positively influenced you and think that everyone should take no matter their major."
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"Tell me everything about yourself and how you got to this point. I want to get a good sense of you."
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"You are a rural primary care physician and a member of the community has just been run over by a truck. There is no access to a Level I trauma unit. How, as a physician practicing in a rural environment, could you prepare for such a situation?"
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"Why do you want to commit the rest and prime of your life to medicine? "
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"What is compassion?"
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"Scenario: 7 year old child, mother that just delivered a baby, and 70 year old man-one unit of blood-- Who will I give it to?"
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" If I wanted to go into psychiatry because of my psychology background."
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"Do you run? (first question asked--out of the blue)"
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"How are music and medicine tied together (I was a music major in college)?"
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"What determines a person's worth?"
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"My thoughts on cloning"
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"What is my opinion on the current situation in Venezuela? What do I think will happen with President Chavez?"
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"What's your favorite book?"
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"What ethical problems are happening in medicine today?"
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"What is the most comples situation you have been in?"
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"What is the greatest challenge facing medicine today?"
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"Who is your role model and how have they effected you"
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"Health care is changing. How do you think Medicine is going to be like in 10 years?"
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"If I had all the power in the world, how would I use it to change Healthcare?"
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"Question about ethics regarding abortion and Rural health clinic?"
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"same as "most difficult question""
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"A question regarding genetic testing and my stance on the issue"
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"How are you going to deal with death?"
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" how do you feel about assisted suicide and how do you feel about compromising your or a patient's morals in order to treat the patient?"
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"what is the most complex situation you've ever been in?"
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"None really. ALl of the questions were to be expected. "
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